{"id":75953,"date":"2025-08-04T19:03:24","date_gmt":"2025-08-04T17:03:24","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/adfinternational.org\/?p=75953"},"modified":"2025-08-22T10:07:24","modified_gmt":"2025-08-22T08:07:24","slug":"what-is-a-woman-legal-showdown-begins-in-australian-federal-court","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/adfinternational.org\/news\/what-is-a-woman-legal-showdown-begins-in-australian-federal-court","title":{"rendered":"\u201cWhat is a Woman?\u201d Legal Showdown Begins in Australian Federal Court"},"content":{"rendered":"\t\t<div data-elementor-type=\"wp-post\" data-elementor-id=\"75953\" class=\"elementor elementor-75953\" data-elementor-post-type=\"post\">\n\t\t\t\t\t\t<section class=\"elementor-section elementor-top-section elementor-element elementor-element-78c19314 elementor-section-boxed elementor-section-height-default elementor-section-height-default\" data-id=\"78c19314\" data-element_type=\"section\" data-e-type=\"section\">\n\t\t\t\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-container elementor-column-gap-default\">\n\t\t\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-column elementor-col-100 elementor-top-column elementor-element elementor-element-bc5d05d\" data-id=\"bc5d05d\" data-element_type=\"column\" data-e-type=\"column\">\n\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-widget-wrap elementor-element-populated\">\n\t\t\t\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-element elementor-element-6025a159 elementor-widget elementor-widget-text-editor\" data-id=\"6025a159\" data-element_type=\"widget\" data-e-type=\"widget\" data-widget_type=\"text-editor.default\">\n\t\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-widget-container\">\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<ul><li><b><span data-contrast=\"none\">Biological male \u201cRoxanne Tickle\u201d sued \u201cGiggle for Girls\u201d app, and founder Sall Grover, for female-only membership policy<\/span><\/b><\/li><li><b><span data-contrast=\"none\">Appeal began today (4<\/span><\/b><b><span data-contrast=\"none\">-7<\/span><\/b><b><span data-contrast=\"none\">\u00a0August) in pivotal case for rights of women to female-only spaces, with implications for the safety of women\u2019s sports, crisis shelters, changing rooms and more<\/span><\/b>\u00a0<\/li><\/ul>\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-element elementor-element-50e3deed elementor-widget elementor-widget-theme-post-featured-image elementor-widget-image\" data-id=\"50e3deed\" data-element_type=\"widget\" data-e-type=\"widget\" data-widget_type=\"theme-post-featured-image.default\">\n\t\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-widget-container\">\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<img fetchpriority=\"high\" decoding=\"async\" width=\"600\" height=\"665\" src=\"https:\/\/adfinternational.org\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/04\/Sall-Grover.webp\" class=\"attachment-large size-large wp-image-45906\" alt=\"Sall Grover, founder of Giggle for Girls app. Defendent in Tickle v. Giggle.\" srcset=\"https:\/\/adfinternational.org\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/04\/Sall-Grover.webp 600w, https:\/\/adfinternational.org\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/04\/Sall-Grover-271x300.webp 271w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 600px) 100vw, 600px\" \/>\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-element elementor-element-7a071429 elementor-widget elementor-widget-text-editor\" data-id=\"7a071429\" data-element_type=\"widget\" data-e-type=\"widget\" data-widget_type=\"text-editor.default\">\n\t\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-widget-container\">\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<p>SYDNEY (1 August 2024) \u2013 The Full Court of the Federal Court of Australia has begun to hear the appeal in what has been described as the \u201cultimate \u2018what is a woman?\u2019 case\u201d in a 4-day hearing from 4-7\u00a0August.\u00a0<\/p><p>Last summer, the Court ruled in Roxanne Tickle v. Giggle for Girls (\u201cTickle v. Giggle\u201d) that \u201cRoxanne Tickle,\u201d a biological male who identifies as a woman, experienced unlawful discrimination when prevented from joining female-only networking app \u201cGiggle.\u201d\u00a0\u00a0<\/p><p>The court found that Tickle experienced \u201cindirect discrimination,\u201d ordering Giggle for Girls to pay $10,000 AUD in compensation and to cover Tickle\u2019s legal costs.\u00a0\u00a0<\/p>\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-element elementor-element-484dfd41 elementor-blockquote--skin-border elementor-widget elementor-widget-blockquote\" data-id=\"484dfd41\" data-element_type=\"widget\" data-e-type=\"widget\" data-widget_type=\"blockquote.default\">\n\t\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-widget-container\">\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<blockquote class=\"elementor-blockquote\">\n\t\t\t<p class=\"elementor-blockquote__content\">\n\t\t\t\tI am optimistic. I know we are right &amp; I know that reality always wins - eventually. Reality is inescapable. \t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<div class=\"e-q-footer\">\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<cite class=\"elementor-blockquote__author\">- Sall Grover, CEO, \"Giggle\"<\/cite>\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t\t<\/blockquote>\n\t\t\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-element elementor-element-7f8cbe7b elementor-widget elementor-widget-text-editor\" data-id=\"7f8cbe7b\" data-element_type=\"widget\" data-e-type=\"widget\" data-widget_type=\"text-editor.default\">\n\t\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-widget-container\">\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<p>Tickle sued the female-only app on the basis that, being \u201clegally permitted to identify as female\u201d and having had his birth certificate amended, he should be permitted into spaces reserved for biological women. Giggle for Girls argued that women have a right to single-sex spaces, both online and offline.&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p>The Court rejected Giggle\u2019s defence that Tickle was not unlawfully discriminated against, but instead disqualified from joining the networking app due to his male sex.&nbsp; &nbsp;<\/p>\n<p>In the judgment, the court stated \u201c\u2026sex is not confined to being a biological concept referring to whether a person at birth had male or female physical traits, nor confined to being a binary concept, limited to the male or female sex\u2026\u201d&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p>ADF International has supported Giggle\u2019s defence on the basis that Australian law must uphold the truth of biological reality and in line with the protections for women enshrined in international human rights law.&nbsp;&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p><strong>Commenting on the decision, Giggle CEO, Sall Grover, said:&nbsp;&nbsp;<\/strong><\/p>\n<p>\u201cTo use Giggle, users had to be female, and female in the ordinary use of the word <i>which is biological,\u201d Grover explained, adding, \u201cI am optimistic. I know we are right &amp; I know that reality always wins &#8211; eventually. Reality is inescapable. The law has to reflect reality. In reality, no man is a woman so therefore no man should legally be a woman.\u201d&nbsp;<\/i><\/p>\n<p>Katherine Deves of Pryor Tzannes &amp; Wallis, legal representatives for the Respondent, said: <i>\u201cThe stakes are high in this case. Women\u2019s international human rights will be lost if \u201cwoman\u201d now includes any male who identifies as such. This decision matters not just in Australia but also to the watching world.\u201d<\/i> &nbsp;<\/p>\n<p>Robert Clarke, Director of Advocacy for ADF International, which provided support for the case, said:&nbsp;&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p>\u201c<i>By ruling that a biological male was discriminated against for being excluded from a women\u2019s app, the court delivered a flawed judgment that undermines protections for women. Sex is not a feeling &#8211; it is a biological fact, and it cannot be changed. This appeal is a defining moment: the Court must choose between ideology and reality<\/i>.&#8220;<\/p>\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-element elementor-element-66e92d19 elementor-widget-divider--view-line elementor-widget elementor-widget-divider\" data-id=\"66e92d19\" data-element_type=\"widget\" data-e-type=\"widget\" data-widget_type=\"divider.default\">\n\t\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-widget-container\">\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-divider\">\n\t\t\t<span class=\"elementor-divider-separator\">\n\t\t\t\t\t\t<\/span>\n\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-element elementor-element-57d3abc9 elementor-widget elementor-widget-text-editor\" data-id=\"57d3abc9\" data-element_type=\"widget\" data-e-type=\"widget\" data-widget_type=\"text-editor.default\">\n\t\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-widget-container\">\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<p>Images for free use in print or online in relation to this story only<\/p><p><em>Pictured (left to right): Sall Grover; Katherine Deves; Robert Clarke.<\/em><\/p>\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-element elementor-element-69db758a elementor-widget elementor-widget-gallery\" data-id=\"69db758a\" data-element_type=\"widget\" data-e-type=\"widget\" data-settings=\"{&quot;aspect_ratio&quot;:&quot;1:1&quot;,&quot;lazyload&quot;:&quot;yes&quot;,&quot;gallery_layout&quot;:&quot;grid&quot;,&quot;columns&quot;:4,&quot;columns_tablet&quot;:2,&quot;columns_mobile&quot;:1,&quot;gap&quot;:{&quot;unit&quot;:&quot;px&quot;,&quot;size&quot;:10,&quot;sizes&quot;:[]},&quot;gap_tablet&quot;:{&quot;unit&quot;:&quot;px&quot;,&quot;size&quot;:10,&quot;sizes&quot;:[]},&quot;gap_mobile&quot;:{&quot;unit&quot;:&quot;px&quot;,&quot;size&quot;:10,&quot;sizes&quot;:[]},&quot;link_to&quot;:&quot;file&quot;,&quot;overlay_background&quot;:&quot;yes&quot;,&quot;content_hover_animation&quot;:&quot;fade-in&quot;}\" data-widget_type=\"gallery.default\">\n\t\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-widget-container\">\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-gallery__container\">\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<a class=\"e-gallery-item elementor-gallery-item elementor-animated-content\" href=\"https:\/\/adfinternational.org\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/04\/Sall-Grover.webp\" data-elementor-open-lightbox=\"yes\" data-elementor-lightbox-slideshow=\"69db758a\" data-elementor-lightbox-title=\"Sall Grover\" data-e-action-hash=\"#elementor-action%3Aaction%3Dlightbox%26settings%3DeyJpZCI6NDU5MDYsInVybCI6Imh0dHBzOlwvXC9hZGZpbnRlcm5hdGlvbmFsLm9yZ1wvd3AtY29udGVudFwvdXBsb2Fkc1wvMjAyNFwvMDRcL1NhbGwtR3JvdmVyLndlYnAiLCJzbGlkZXNob3ciOiI2OWRiNzU4YSJ9\">\n\t\t\t\t\t<div class=\"e-gallery-image elementor-gallery-item__image\" data-thumbnail=\"https:\/\/adfinternational.org\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/04\/Sall-Grover.webp\" data-width=\"600\" data-height=\"665\" aria-label=\"Sall Grover, founder of Giggle for Girls app. Defendent in Tickle v. 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